In the folks I coach (many of which attend Tony’ seminars frequently), many breakthough to levels that they have never been before. Tony Robbins is a snake-oil salesman of the worst kind. The coach helps to bring those out in a client but it is the client who is self-actualising (in the best circumstances) and creating their own reality and life. My gut tells me no, you don’t need to stage an intervention. Or was he just practicing twice? You wouldn’t (and arguably, shouldn’t) believe me if i answered that question anyways…. I looked up the symptoms of lead poisoning and they were pretty much everything I was experiencing. Tony Robbins is an entrepreneur, #1 NY Times bestselling author, philanthropist, and the nation’s #1 Life and Business Strategist. Other than that, I agree with pretty much everything you’ve written and appreciate you sharing it. matter very little in comparison with the work by the client and with the therapeutic relationship. I love Tony’s energy, tips on PRP and other modalities for injury recovery and his charitable work. Its almost a double edge sword becoming that popular because in order to keep drawing the big crowds willing to paypremium prices for a ticket the focus becomes less about delivering value and more about putting on a show like having some random girl in the audience (who knows if she is really random or planted there..that is how skeptical I am) call to break up with her boyfriend and have people walk on fire to prove their self worth. The endless up-sells, wrapped in manipulative language, the endless promises of an easy to achieve happy future and blah blah blah…. Oh and the one who had to roar like a lion . In most of these cases I have done this through employment but in many simply to support, assist and guide friends, colleagues and family. For the record, I was incredibly skeptical to attend my first event, but allowed myself to be open to what was being taught and how the experience could be a blessing to my life. However, you state that psychologists have “tons” of training around trauma, and that just isn’t so. I think self-reports matter a lot when it comes to ones mental health. Thanks for writing about this problem! I am not an expert nor am I a certified or qualified coach however my vocational and tertiary qualifications along with work and life experience have allowed me to mentor others in areas where I have ‘managed change’ with relative success and supported others (including my children) to move through difficult paths and choices. I take full accountability for being so dumb but man this sucks and she(Catherine Behan) is at best a truth manipulator. We want these things to be possible, so we surrender to their glaring illusion. It was a truly eye-opening experience. It was all – “I KNOW what is BEST for you and you WILL do things THIS way and everything will be GREAT and YOU will be great when you do.” There was no co-creation. Sarah Berger @sarahelizberger. If you have the potential to be truly exceptional at something, you’ll have to sacrifice a lot in order to pursue it. And it is wrong. I am a trained Psychotherapist of 18 years and in the last two, I have had the privilege to work with women in business, around money mindset, inner confidence, and creating a business that they love. Prioritizing sleep, diet, or exercise (they’re all reciprocal) Thank you so much for putting this article into the world. (The Sedona Method, solution focused brief therapy, and EFT/tapping, in particular). This includes everything from fake testimonials (you can buy those on Fiverr), PDFs teaching you “this one weird trick,” and charlatans who promise the world but deliver a steaming pile of shit. Should we do that? Even the language, “I teach people to live a life that cancer hates.” Brilliant! Hey Nancy, thanks for sharing some of your story and thoughts! I’m a speaker/coach/consultant now, I used to work in mental healthcare. It’s helped me a lot. Surprisingly, it was a fantastic read. they say it hasnt they go to this coach and that coach but no permanent change. Personal development then sold us a bull shit solution about how to achieve it. Where is the difference between you work and other life coaches? After all, coaching isn’t a gender-specific profession and I see many of the practices you talk about in both male and female coaches. We just have to be careful not to become so critical that we leave the limits of our own field of vision out of the equation and make people too skeptical to get the help that is actually available to them. I love by business partner and his wife…she’ll be able to enjoy with him. Sending healing thoughts to you both. In areas of the US and world of concern to the EPA (due to high pollution rates combined with high fish consumption), people have an average of 3ug/L of mercury in their blood. To help them see the way to their dreams that for whatever reason, they can’t see themselves. That, to me, shows a lot of integrity. Which is why there are a lot of people with very long relationships with therapists and have spent thousands to heal their trauma and still, years later, have nightmares, crippling anxiety, and very active triggers and are lead to believe they are thriving. It’s the study of human behavior and understanding how the mind works but a lot of psychologists come out disappointed realising they should have trained as a therapist, it doesn’t give you that – or at least not in much depth until you go on to the doctorate level or postgraduate training. Jason what/who qualifies you to rip into Tony Robbins et al? If all we have to do is continue paying a seemingly helpful professional, we’d be crazy not to. He then encourages her to form artificially deep and vulnerable relationships with three random ass dudes from the audience who are supposed to check in on her. Next, she created huge amounts of vulnerability in the room by telling an intimate story. Not in the 2nd para you haven’t. His interventions are incredibly powerful – the NetFlix documentary does not serve him. I would like to know what did Tony Robbins learn from Dr Amen Comment by Gerardo Halbinger — October 7, 2018 @ 11:29 AM Hello Gerardo, in the blog it was stated that Tony is 6’7”, which was meant to depict his height of 6 feet 7 inches tall. That’s beautiful. Angelica – THANK YOU! You have to be willing to see things as they are. I absolutely love this…. I think for the most part self-help is mythology. Coaches who are focused on specific areas of development tend to be more aware of their own limitations. hi Jason, couldn’t agree more especially the bullnlpshit and the last 2 postscripts were amazing . I didn’t even feel like you hated Robbins. I should have known better, because the whole training was disturbing…basically IEMT is the poor mab’s version of EMDR, an eye movement therapy offered on the NHS for trauma in the UK, that does have an evidence base. Instead of giving life advice to the masses, they should be talking to a therapist in private.” Of course, I’ll use my list at some point. I am sure it will come out sooner or later. Write out five things you want to change in your life. The most disturbing was having the woman pick out three “uncles” as victims of sexual abuse are often drawn subconsciously to predators…. Love this. Jason and Pamela, I agree with you both, and I would take this one further step, to the United States Declaration of Independence which states that “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” are “unalienable rights” which have been given to all human beings by their Creator, and which governments are created to protect. Tony Robbins attributes his change in health by saying, "Dr. I’ll attempt not to defend Tony Robbins in this response as it is not my job to promote him. And though many coaches similarly are not trained in approaches that can help – in my experience the coaches – just like the psychologists – trained in this approach are more effective than most psychotherapists and psychologists I’ve known who are not! Certainly the stories from the sexual abuse survivor (and I do agree with you about the ‘uncles’) could have maybe been handled more sensitively, but ultimately I would say that asking people their story, and giving them to space to be vulnerable is actually a powerful tool to help others (and to help the person themselves), because giving people space to be publicly vulnerable is likely to give others the strength to speak up and recognise their own issues, too. A worthy friend only wants honesty. All of this is good. Thanks for the effort to have written this post. More than that, I was a junkie. I use that title because psychologist could be a bit misleading, since I have a masters in psychology but am not a Clinical or Counseling psychologist with a doctorate. , and effective. You know, a few people I respect have mentioned that I got it wrong when it comes to NLP. I also think he’s completely failed to understand the limits of his gifts. And yeah, the really annoying part is that your business coach (who clearly had no understanding of business) is the NORM! I do not appreciate him saying: Just approach everything with a beautiful state. This is very different than the approach to NLP that is closer to magic incantations used to rewrite your brain. Anything over 5 is considered dangerous, and anything over 10 is considered acute mercury poisoning. I’ve never felt drawn to attend, listen to or read any of Tony Robbins material, something just didn’t feel right for me and yet I have friends who loved it all, although now a few years later they say they wouldn’t do it again. Why I’ve lost faith in Tony Robbins (and most life coaches), There is no path: lessons from a monk and a billionaire,,,,, Optimisme in groot happe | krummelpapenbloubessies, It was critical to my current success. I did a real times labs urine test for mycotoxins and was high in aflatoxin (usually from Aspergillus) and then when the ERMI test came back with high Aspergillus and some others, he came back for a closer look. I know folks consider him great, but I have always thought there was some sleaze associated with his work. Step 1 – The tricky question: I actually don’t want most people to hire me as any sort of coach or consultant. I loved this article. Change is paradoxical. Many walk away with very, very little change. In coaching it’s all about them! The title of this article caught my attention. After the IEMT training, I tested it with a friend, and I’m sure he was left disturbed and a bit traumatized, for the rest of the day at least, when he was upset and wouldn’t explain why. WOWZERS !!! Maybe because I’m British but the whole exuberant go get ’em Tony Robbins approach never sits well. You don’t know me. But of course, there’s no need to take my word for any of this. Your relationships will be riddled with friction. Encourages a survivor of systemic childhood rape to tell the story of her abuse without preparation (or really, consent) in front the entire audience. But your post has summed up exactly my own deep uncomfortable issues on it. I used to argue with my mom a lot. Well I have seen Tony Robbins. I want to attempt to explain maybe what Robbins means by that from my perspective. Snake oil salesmen have hurt and damaged people throughout history. it doesnt matter if its scientific or woo woo. However I can state with certainty that using NLP techniques, I myself and a lot of my clients have had amazing results. I would also have your water tested. The whole change your mindset thing does my head in, esp money mindset I can’t even begin to tell you how much I loved this piece. And yes tell that lady to call 3 men uncles when one was really checking her out ..?? My path is that of the so-called teacher plants, and I’ve received incredible healing and insight from this modality, which is way way outside of what’s understood or even approved of in North America (where I live). Many enjoy the experience and gain a few tidbits. Maybe our teachers need to inrpire us more. Why the mental health field continues to legitimize him is beyond me. Thank you for an interesting and eye-opening piece – and I am glad that you don’t completely dismiss all coaching out of hand because of a few charlatans. Highly Manipulative and leading. The worst thing is I felt crazy because when you are in a room with 10,500 and they are sold on it you feel a little like something is wrong with you. To answer your questions, the coffee was stored in the bag we bought it in. Because she’s already produced great results, you’re likely to trust her. We all want the easiest path to success possible. I get that. People will say things like ‘it’s a small investment to make to improve yourself’-it’s not if it feels perilous. Quick fixing took me down the path to orthorexia, shitty relationships, and confusing my trauma around sexual abuse with being told I needed to get those multiple orgasms on demand. If your life is good, it can be great. 5 When i started focusing on processes I find there is nothing wrong with being swept away by the charisma and promises of a “motivational speaker”; that is apart of being human . I wasn’t doing any of that, and my body likely just started storing it while trying to get my attention that something was wrong. When she was younger, she battled with. Tons and tons and tons of people fall for this stuff (I’ve met a few very influential people who were wrapped around Robbins finger, feeding money and energy). If any of us therapists did that we’d be struck off, hung, drawn and quartered and then set on fire for good measure. I am glad to hear that you saw through the manipulation and abuse though. I just haven’t had personal experience with him. I went and gave the 4 days 90% probably not 100%. i may have initially had small gains but now i have bigger results to show. Looks like you are deleting the adverse comments. It’s what we do consistently. A very simple truth that makes many people uncomfortable: if you’ve been into personal development for a while, you probably need a psychologist. There’s one point I can’t help myself but hammer home here…. But in fact to me it falls in exactly the same box as our Tony. Much appreciated, Jason. I’m not sure it’s Tony Robbins who is the problem here, I think the problem being addressed here might be the formulaic way of delivering world-stage coaching? Big mistake and I should have known better., The public has to know good alternatives in NLP world: EANLPt accredited training with 4 years curricula accredited by European Association for Psychotherapy I do not. Sadly I saw lots of people misuse it before I found inspiring people who use it well. Life coaches and gurus can be of great utility, as long as we harness them to move forward, and don’t give our power over to them, or at least not for long. But is it wrong for me to critique an industry that I also work in? Politicians have done the same things to weak, poor and uneducated people… keeping them down and telling them that they have the answer for them… And have their lives improved?… Generally speaking no. I’m living proof this is true. It made me question my own results as I don’t beleive things can change in am instant ..I think we do get caught in the emotions after a hyped up coaching session, but these are like sugar rushes as you say. If you do not know about this approach – or would like to know more – there are a vast supply of free resources –, Thanks for your post and for the great discussion – Anne. I believe you when you say that NLP worked well in your classroom for both management and learning. So many lifestyle choices, especially medical related decisions that we fall victim to time and time again! I sense, yet can not be sure, that is has something to do with how badly we want a shift when we attend. Not everyone gives themselves the Grace they deserve. Don’t you think that if someone is good, there might be cycles of benefit, so that in a few months you see results and as you keep working with that person over time you see additional results? Tony speaks of Happiness being Progress. It was borderline creepy how they were cherry picked before each session. Ethical?” You’ll have to come to your own conclusions on those questions, but I think it’s a bit dangerous to dismiss them. I'm amazed by what he does (I recently shared how he gets 1 million visitors per month), and wanted to experience his coaching in person.A lot of my friends are big TR fans, and they all … . A healing process. Leslie – whoa! Article was very well written though. He takes people’s vulnerably and uses his show like a drug to make them believe they feel something… because people feel something, which is a sense of connectedness, with others, themselves, with someone they perceive as a celebrity or powerful person, they THINK they have changed. Telling them it’s going to get better right around the corner of the next product or seminar… That we are inadequate in and of ourselves and instead of learning some new skills are led to believe that they hold the answer and our best future. We all want the easiest path to success possible. A shocking number of coaches simply lie to their customers. I am classed as both a coach and therapist, studying full time for 4 years , but the title means nothing , when trauma is infront of me I use and work with what ever technique suits . Many “health” coaches have unhealthy relationships to food, exercise, and their body image. Ever since then whenever I’m around black people, I have this negative emotional charge inside. He is likely less authentic or self-aware than he seems. The video was disgusting to me. My first intro to TR was a YouTube video of him saving a marriage Live on Air. Thank you- Sincerely James. The ONLY thing I do in a coaching assignment is to increase the pace with which the coachee comes to the insights as to the best way to go forward. Successful people experience the same issues that the unsuccessful people do. We expressed our concerns about the woman’s well-being and were instantly met with the hostile challenge of, ” I’ll bet you $20,000 right now that if I call up to their room, they will tell you that everything is great. Coaches can be of great value if you’re looking to speed up your success in a well defined category, and I offer a few guidelines in the article. One takeaway from working through that experience is “it’s OK to not be OK.” Or in other words, it’s OK to feel bad and experience the darker aspects of life. And no, I didn’t buy in to the whole Mastery University although I did buy CDs and found them useful. I would have no way of convincing you of this, but I promise that every word of this article is from the heart. Moira – YES YES YES! It also usually gets embedded most when we do it shift by shift, practising being that different way and a gradual awareness of what letting go of that other shit we’ve been doing means. Luckily, I realized this sooner, and I went to a psychologist, who doesn’t fail to practice what she preaches. Nope, I’m cool with people who disagree with me. It’s appalling. And I find your approach interesting in terms of keeping your options open – you commend Tony Robbins for the work he’s done then slate him in the next breath. With NLP, like personal development or psychology, it’s a broad term that encompasses a lot of modalities (and sometimes BS gets in there by particular people). It must have greatly interrupted my pattern. Why would someone ask you for help while you tear up others? So this is probably all together too much and may even cloud the issue of whether or not I have integrity, but Fil, I certainly appreciate you asking this question. I really appreciate someone in the industry who read the article, agreed with some but not all of it, and then chimed in. So again, trust your gut. B) You’ve also clarified for me why Tony has always made me feel nauseous! It’s stunning how blinding charisma, confidence, and a microphone are. If you’re just lacking motivation or need a few quick tricks, personal development books are also extremely useful. My favorite part of your entire article is your comment that there is no singular path. 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